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Post by crash23 on May 21, 2006 19:00:59 GMT -8
I like the members only format b/c then people have to step up and put their name on their comments and not hide behind an alias.
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Post by Greenie on May 21, 2006 19:01:28 GMT -8
That's the rule but it wasn't applied like that.
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Post by Chris on May 21, 2006 19:04:25 GMT -8
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Post by man who made the call on May 21, 2006 20:09:59 GMT -8
yes, when the ball is dead the play stands. but the blue called the kid out as soon as the ball was hit. which means the ball is dead before the homerun! wow, does that change anyones mind that likes the rule set out? if you have agreed with the rule set out then the right call was made. its to late to change your mind!!!!
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Post by Chris on May 21, 2006 20:15:31 GMT -8
Nope - The protest committee would likely have over ruled the umpire based on his incorrect interpretation of the rules. Umpires are fallable and that's why the protest was created. This was not a judgement call it was a misunderstanding of the rules.
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Post by crash23 on May 21, 2006 20:36:56 GMT -8
Good umps are never afraid to admit when they made a mistake and/or misunderstood a ruling. I greatly appreciate an ump who comes over after an inning and says. "I think I missed such and such a pitch" or "That was a tough a call, it could have gone either way. I might have missed it." Those kinds of umps earn a lot of respect. I know they'll be honest with me and I know they are honest with themselves when they make the wrong call. It happens, they are not perfect and they freely admit it. I don't call those guys umps - I call 'em champs!
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Post by Chris on May 21, 2006 20:38:10 GMT -8
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Post by the man who made the call on May 21, 2006 20:39:16 GMT -8
yes! not only did we have a coach that umpires there but the team that the call was not in favor had a coach agreewith the call made. im ending this with the call is what is was and there is no turning back! we all can only move forward. to argue about this one call that made no diffence in the win the dodgers got is ludacris. it is like falling in public and wishing you could change that. YOU CANT!!!!
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Post by a person with many thoughts on May 21, 2006 20:44:46 GMT -8
those people who cant get over things (like a call in a baseball game) are the people who only want to win in life instead of having fun with life or in thins case the game!
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Post by Chris on May 21, 2006 20:45:19 GMT -8
Another non sequitur but I like you any way! You'll have to work on that at Stanford. BTW - the umpire coach to whom you are referring is hardly an expert. You know more about the rules than him - I'll give you that.
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Post by man who made the call on May 21, 2006 20:48:56 GMT -8
i doubt that i9 know more than the man i refer to! i know that he himself would have made the right call in this situation. a call that would have been exactly like mine but with the ejection i could have/should have given.
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Post by Chris on May 21, 2006 20:52:33 GMT -8
Being smart is a wonderful thing but give me wisdom over smarts any day. Some day you'll be both smart and wise and I pity the fool that gets in your way.
Have a good night!
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Post by Chris on May 21, 2006 20:55:50 GMT -8
BTW - A slight condescension was implied but only in a paternal way
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Post by crash23 on May 21, 2006 21:08:09 GMT -8
Should an umpire eject a kid for unintentionally throwing a bat? I don't think so. What would be the proper thing to do? Take his achievement away, be it a base hit, home run or out? I think not. Asking the coach to remove him? Maybe. I have not heard in any of this conversation whether or not the catcher or anyone esle was hurt. I've seen bats Unintenionally but violently thrown, hurting the catcher or ump. First time should be a warning, second time a talk with the coach and ask him to remove the kid - NO EJECTION! This doesn't warrant the player sitting another game. If the bat is thrown but does not hurt anyone I don't think anything oter than a reminder needs to be given. Certainly the play should never be stopped. Whatever it is, it should stand. What to do with the player is addressed after the play.
This discussion kind of reminds me of pitchers. If a kid is intentionally hitting batters he should be removed and ejected. If it is unintenional, there is no rule that says he should be removed after hitting X amount of batters. Could the ump remove such a pitcher? Sure (there's that clause that says an ump can rule on anything not covered by the rules). 'Course I'd talk to the manager first and suggest he remove the pitcher.
It seems the overwhelming consensus on the discussion board that Chris posted calls for the play in question to stand. I wonder what "the man who made the call" would have wanted to happen if this had happened to him as a player.
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Post by Just Little Old Me on May 21, 2006 21:22:15 GMT -8
;DThis sounds like a scene out of "America's Scariest Family Fueds" Nobody ever really wins. Good Times!
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