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Post by crash23 on May 14, 2007 16:05:11 GMT -8
Good, I can rest easy then b/c that's not what happened. I've never poked anyone in the chest.
Your facts are way off base, but, unlike you, I won't air dirty laundry out in public.
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Post by tmurphy on May 14, 2007 20:48:58 GMT -8
Whatever Mr. Baseball who knows everything and no one else knows crap. Tell the young man he is a liar and be done with it because that is where the facts came from. Your side of the story or opinions are not always the correct ones so you need to accept that sometimes you are wrong and not always right. God knows I have been wrong alot and had to face it but am a better man for it, instead of always making excuses or reasoning for why I should be right and everyone else wrong. Thank you and I have washed my so called dirty laundry and by the way Mr. Baseball it came out sparkling white.
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Post by crash23 on May 14, 2007 21:45:17 GMT -8
Well, it's plain to see that on one account I was dead wrong...
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Post by Chris on May 14, 2007 21:51:30 GMT -8
Guys this discussion should be continued off line.
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Post by crash23 on May 14, 2007 22:31:16 GMT -8
No, this discussion is over, period. I refuse to get caught up further in Tony's spin-cycle.
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Post by lboullion on May 14, 2007 23:01:10 GMT -8
Ouch.... Tony, Craig..... not sure what's going on but your both great coaches who have pissed off umpires in the past and been tossed. My boys have had the honor of playing for both of you at one time or another and I remember when you both got tossed the same game in Fresno!! That was against Gary's team. That was fun.
Anyway, make up and move on. Turlock needs both of you. We all make mistakes on and off the field. Tony, a little harsh...... you probably should have heard Craig's point of view first. Although I do remember in Denair when Ryan was 9 and playing minors, Craig yelled at the umpire so bad, the umpire walked off the field and never came back....no lie It was kinda funny really. I would have been scared of Craig back then, but now I know he is passionate. Adrian hit two homeruns that game off of Brett. Remember it like yesterday. Hasnt hit two in a game since. A dad had to finish umpiring the game.
Hell, even I got tossed out of a game once guys and probably did some things I shouldn't have done. Tony, if I had a dollar for ever time I had to escort you out of the ball park I'd have 3 bucks.....
It's all fun so get over it.......play ball.
L Boullion
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Post by knezme on May 15, 2007 4:14:01 GMT -8
Lance, I couldn't have said it any better myself. Now you two hug and kiss (if you can get past your bellies) ;D
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Post by Chris on May 15, 2007 7:02:19 GMT -8
Although I appreciate Lance's post I think its beyond hugs. There were some hurtful things said here that shouldn't have been. I don't get it.
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Post by tmurphy on May 15, 2007 7:09:43 GMT -8
I am done with the whole thing Craig is going to be right no matter what has been said or done point proven. By the way Lance big difference in travel ball and Little league at least in travel ball you are dealing with grown men and not young teanagers trying to make a little spending money. Hugs and kisses to everyone even Craig but I will still stand my ground on this one. Chris all I can say is yes sometimes the truth does hurt but sometimes things need to be said and I said my peice and am finished. No spin cycle the truth face it and move on. DONE!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Chris on May 15, 2007 7:16:20 GMT -8
I just think you guys have known each other for years and concerns posted here are so public. These issues could have been settled over wings and beer. I know there may not have been any wings left for you but maybe it would have been a better venue. I don't want to see any of my friends hurt and I appreciate so much what you two have done for baseball in our community.
Nuff said for me too.
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Post by scrapper on May 15, 2007 8:12:06 GMT -8
Chris, nice proverb, so true.
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Post by Chris on May 15, 2007 8:17:53 GMT -8
I've always said you don't know who your real friends are until you've had your first fight. Real friends hang in there and get over it.
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Post by scrapper on May 15, 2007 8:22:00 GMT -8
That is so true. In some cases you have to agree to disagree. Everybody see things differently. How many time have we seen the kid get thrown out and we think he is out and the other guy thinks he safe, there opinions will never change. Live with it and move on. I hear beer and wings are pretty good for that.
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Post by Chris on May 15, 2007 8:25:50 GMT -8
LOL - I agree. Prolly the beer more than the wings.
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Post by tmurphy on May 15, 2007 9:44:46 GMT -8
Hey guys I still LOVE Crash just a difference of the way things should be handled. Crash is still a good coach and sometimes we get caught up in the moment, all I am saying is it is ok to be wrong sometimes or other people to have a difference in ideas. I have had to say I was wrong several times it not that big of a deal. By the way Lance if you remember correctly Craig got me tossed in Fresno because he went behind the back stop and kept talking smack to the umpire. The ump tossed me because he said I needed to control my coaches. Only twice Lance and the last time after the game the ump and myself had a beer together it is never anything personal just competition. It is fun and lets all play ball. Crash I was just voicing my opinion just like you have about me but I do not dwell on it because there will be alot more to come as long as you and myself stay involved in youth sports. As a manager or coach you will always do things that people will not like and sometimes yes we are wrong and sometimes we are right but you do not have to be right all the time it is ok to be wrong and own up to it. I have and will probably have to do it again somewhere down the road. Everybody relax Crash and I will work this out between us. Chris to some it up is the little proverb at the end of your post. It is ok to have faults and not be perfect you will still have friends but to always be correct on everything or think that you are will run people away that may want to be your friend.
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