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Post by Randy Edwards on May 15, 2007 18:29:47 GMT -8
I have NO idea who Jens is nor have I ever talked a player. I'm pretty quiet at the games. If anything, I usually get odd looks for cheering on a great hit or play regardless what team it is. If I misread the body langage... so did about 10-15 other people. That sucks. It just shows what you see and what you know can be two worlds apart! I just know that where there is a kid with a bad attitude, you will probably find his parent with one also. At least I know it stands true on our team. I think the kids are just human Just like the mom saying " That sucks" and pushing a bad day or moment on the parents EVERYONE may have a bad day that shines through at that time... Give it a rest 99.99% of our kids are great kids and deserve our respect and understanding.... One thing about it, there bad day usually ends in the moment instead of reliving it over and over like most GROWN UPS? Now thats on Oxymoran: grown ups"
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Post by leftymom on May 15, 2007 18:45:44 GMT -8
I don't understand how one person is getting bashed for their opinion. Isn't that what this forum is for? Bottom line, someone else started this thread, not Baseballmom. I feel comfortable enough in speaking for her that this has gotten completely out of control. Personal attacks on how someone looks have absolutely nothing to do with their opinions and is completely rude and uncalled for. Besides, her 'bottom' is definately not ample! It is the exact opposite. Here's to one less person on the forum. Delete my account please!
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Post by Greenie on May 15, 2007 19:27:11 GMT -8
Wow, Crash and Tony ain't got shit on us National leaguers.
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Post by Chris on May 15, 2007 20:21:03 GMT -8
I deleted my previous post directed to Ms. Benson as she found it offensive. Since she requested that her account be deleted I feel it only appropriate.
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Post by DiamondbacksMom on May 15, 2007 20:35:00 GMT -8
Beth (if you're not gone yet), I understand where you're coming from too. I just wanted to defend the kid since he had no say in what an adult was accusing him of and since he's on our team, I jumped in. I agree with Kathy in that kids make mistakes and most of them wear their emotions on their sleeve. I can certainly speak from experience on that one My kid has been pulled from a game before (and will again I'm sure) because he can't handle his emotions whether anger or sadness. They are just kids for goodness sakes and bound to screw up from time to time. The most important thing is that the parents and coaches are nurturing them for the future. I know in HS you're pretty much done if you can't keep your emotions under control (I've seen it at Pitman in years past). As the men would say "hugs and kisses"
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Post by crash23 on May 15, 2007 20:43:05 GMT -8
Great phrase Kathy. More importnat than the baseball lessons we teach are the life lessons our players will take with them long after their playing days are over. While it's easy to dismiss a kid and let the behavior go uncorrected, the good coaches will take the time to explain why the behavior is innappropriate, what the expectation is, and be empathetic towards the kids transgression. They are going to act out in ways we wouldn't expect more mature individuals to and it's our job to help them along the path. If we deal with their behavior with outbursts and anger that's what they learn... If we deal with it with thoughtfulness and empathy then that's what they learn. Sounds over the top to some perhaps... but that's OK
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Post by lboullion on May 15, 2007 22:07:05 GMT -8
Even if the kid did kick the bag and stomp on it, so what..... that would be a conversation for the coach and player to have on why we dont do that. It sounds like someone is upset and frustrated about other things and this is what they picked to vent on.
I couldnt stand it when my kid threw a fit for getting out. Use to do it all the time. I never approved of it, I never allowed it, never accepted it... but it still happened even with all the talks, punishment, whatever.... Finally maturity sets in and players dont do that.
All players need to be taught (and learn) sportsmenship just like they need to learn how to field a ground ball. There is a right and wrong way to act and they are going to make mistakes at times. Learn from it and move on. It is not for others to criticise kids and no one should be talking about a players poor behavior specifically. Now, if you are talking about a coaches or parents unsportsmenlike behavior then fine....adults should know better.
L Boullion
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Post by Chris on May 15, 2007 22:10:03 GMT -8
I totally agree!
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Post by knezme on May 16, 2007 5:31:26 GMT -8
Great thread guys and gals.................
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Post by Mark on May 17, 2007 9:40:07 GMT -8
that would be a conversation for the coach and player to have on why we dont do that. L Boullion agreed
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Post by tmurphy on May 22, 2007 7:35:28 GMT -8
Ok last night I witnessed a young gentleman that really put on a show for sportsmanship and we will not name the kid or game for obvious reasons. The kid snatched away from the coach trying to talk to him, then threw hit batting helmet, batting gloves, kicked the ball bucket twice then went to the bench threw his glove down sat on the bench sulking. Then when he goes to take his defensive position throws his glove again and while warming up he is throwing the ball all over the place. The coach not once did anything or even said anything to the kid for his display. It was very embarrassing to watch as a parent of a player myself.
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Post by Chris on May 22, 2007 7:51:14 GMT -8
I hope the youngster was introduced to the concept of corporal punishment when he got home. Jens wouldn't be able to sit for a week I promise you.
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Post by DiamondbacksMom on May 22, 2007 7:54:58 GMT -8
Unfortunately some parents are oblivious to their children's behavior (whether they didn't see it or weren't even there). Hopefully in this instance the parents were aware and the child was corrected by the parents since apparently the coaches did nothing. I know my child gets it from both when he acts up
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Post by scrapper on May 22, 2007 8:58:02 GMT -8
I think that young man's e-tank was empty. And because his e-tank is empty I would have to kindly go up to him and escort him off the field, and then later at the next practice have a conversation that would let him know that is not the way to act at a baseball game.
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Post by Chris on May 22, 2007 10:29:53 GMT -8
Well the Orioles v Red Sox game should be very interesting then if things don't go the O's way. Stay tuned.
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