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Post by trevor9 on Nov 2, 2006 8:29:03 GMT -8
I don't remember you peeking at my jock, but i'll try and be more careful in your presence lol. There isn't enough Red Stripe in the world for me to do the thong lap.
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Post by Chris on Nov 2, 2006 8:33:12 GMT -8
ROTF - Perhaps it was a quick peek in the mens room when you were distracted.
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 2, 2006 8:36:32 GMT -8
Thats why Craig smashed his glasses, he peeked and realized right then and there that all men are not created equal.
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Post by tmurphy on Nov 2, 2006 9:53:14 GMT -8
OK man you guys are starting to scare me about the thong thing maybe you guys are spending to much time together. Mike be careful putting your name in with mine and Craig's you will be the main topic of discussion just like we have become lately but anyway CONGRATS on your victory last night and by the way Chris instead of me backed out on the wings and beer and as far as Rodney man I just couldn't take anymore of that game last night I think I am going to have torecycle all my Bulldogs gear for maybe Boise St. gear that was horrible 45-21 and I think the last 2 touchdowns were charity but anyway go Dogs win the WAC. Good luck to the Rangers this weekend in Fresno. BYB will be off this weekend and play the next 2 preparing for our trip to Chino Hills to try and qualify for the ELITE 24 in Orlando Florida next August. California was awarded 3 qualifiers for this 2 in Chino and the last one in Manteca on Presidents day weekend you have to win the tournament to qualify and only the top 24 teams throughout the United States goes to this tournament or that is what I am being told this is the first time we have done this one. The tournament is held at the Walt Disney World Sports Complex in Orlando Fla.
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Post by crash23 on Nov 2, 2006 12:32:07 GMT -8
How did this degenerate from advise to talking about the Thong Dance... sems everything does thogh! lol
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 2, 2006 14:39:31 GMT -8
Crash, its a good thing you can teach a kid how to hit a curve ball because I would hate to see you teach them how to spell. Oops you're a teacher, I almost forgot. Thank god for the "No Child Left Behind Act". I feel better about my kids going to public schools now. J/K.....You set me up too easily.
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Post by crash23 on Nov 2, 2006 15:34:44 GMT -8
Yeah, I dropped out of typing after the first quarter... I started off as a hunter & pecker... Now I usually just get referred to as the latter!
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Post by mflema on Nov 5, 2006 1:25:10 GMT -8
OK, I am a grandma, but my formal training is in Youth and Adolescence development. I like it all, provided that the kids are the ones wanting to play the game. Developing skills in sports is important no matter if LL is teaching it or TB. As long as a kid is learning life skills it is all good. I agree with Craig to keep it all in perspective. But, be honest, how many parents, besides those who are really into the program can do that? I mean, I have a hard time with the grandsons keeping their accomplishments in baseball in perspective. (The weird thing is that I had no problem with my sons, I was always able to be honest about their level of play, but the grandsons are another story LOL) What ever sport that a young person wishes to play, I only want for them to gain physical skills along with the mental skills. Self Esteem, pride in one's self, teamwork, and all the other things that come along with playing sports. The best coaches are the ones that can not only teach how to pitch, and hit, but makes a kid feel good about learning this. I also agreed with Craig about keeping the perspective of you are only as good as your competition. I know that is what travel ball is all about. I don't have a problem with that. I only dislike it when it causes problems at All Star time I don't care if parents can keep this perspective, as long as the players can. My 9 year old grandson, hit a double and went to third on the throw in a game recently. He called me that night to tell me about his "triple". When I talked to his dad, I asked if it was a triple or not. Kevin told me what happen. The next day, Dustin called me back, and said, he was wrong, he ONLY got a double. I made him understand that a double is great, and good base running got him to third and that was important also. Now when he talks, that is what he says. I hit a double, but I was on the ball and stretched it to third. This is what it is all about. Dustin is improving his hitting, he feels great about himself, and he can look at himself and honestly feel pride in a job done well. The best thing about LL is that for the most part, it is available to the masses. The parents who can't (or won't) spend their weekends in travel ball, the kids still have an outlet to play ball. Because the length of the bases, or the mound doesn't matter to these kids, the fact that they get to play a season, and maybe get some post season ball also, that is the big thing. I applaud the parents who has their kid in travel ball. It takes a lot of sacrifice to be that involved with your child. I know, because I have done it. My boys were not in travel ball, (no such thing, or we would of been) but they played every sport they could, wrestle, basketball, baseball, football. Plus they were active in 4-H and FFA when in high school. I would not trade those days for anything, even though they were tiresome, expensive, and hard. But as a LL program we need to fill the void for those kids whose parents can't or won't run them every weekend somewhere, or spend the money that needs to be spent, or just won't do it because they don't want to. That is where LL fills the void, and as LL officials we need to keep that at the forefront of anything we do. I love the really dedicated kid. But I get them also, but they don't have a parent who is dedicated also. Quite frankly, I think there would not be travel ball if there was not a need, nor would there be LL if there wasn't a need. There is enough kids to go around, maybe not at the skill level the managers want them in LL. But perhaps it is not just the parents who have to keep a perspective, but managers and coaches also. I know LL managers are always saying there is not enough talent in the draft, and maybe they are correct. So go with what you have and make the best of it, and remember that we are helping a kid first, and then the player secondly. Sorry for being the "girl" on the board. But I had to get the self esteem part out. Thanks Craig for making us think about this. MEL
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 5, 2006 8:38:10 GMT -8
Mrs. Lema, you need not apologize for being the girl on the board. I only wish you and Tony were on the American side. I have seen the dedication of yourselves and others like Paul Cooper, Phil Salazar, and my old little league coach Darryl Hockenberry since I was a kid. I spoke with Tony briefly last year prior to the all-star season about a kid on our side. We had a ten year old make the all-star team who happened to live in a group home and because of some state law nobody is allowed to see an original birth certificate. I understand that the rules are in place because people have tried many ways to cheat, we've all heard the stories. This boys counselor was very irritated by the response he got by a few board members and I can't blame him. He indicated that when he signed him up, the people checking everything were told of the situation and stated that "it was fine". Their biggest concern was cash or check. At the time of all-stars we were left scrambling to get the paper work in order with no help from the president, not so much as an apology from the big guy to this boy. In fact "at least this kid got to play little league", that was the philosophy of our top guns. I guess what I'm getting at is with your contacts maybe in the near future this will not happen again. I love little league and the tradition it has here in Turlock and will continue to support it. Travel ball is also a great outlet for those who play it, my son has played both and will continue. One is not better than the other, there just different. Unfortunately for the boy who could not play all-stars last year, travel ball would have been a an open door with just a copy of a birth certificate.
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Post by crash23 on Nov 5, 2006 21:24:43 GMT -8
Good points Mel!
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Post by Chris on Nov 5, 2006 21:28:25 GMT -8
Mel ~
Its self-es"team" when referring to young athletes.
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Post by mflema on Nov 14, 2006 1:25:04 GMT -8
Trevor 9 Which kid was this? I manage to get one of your kids legal. I am not sure who you are talking about, but I did get one of the boys to play. Now I don't know if the parents manage to get the wedding certificate to either Jon Fortado, or Craig Cumberland.
If this is the other kid, we can work on it now with an in lieu of from Little League International. There is a lot of hoops to jump through, but with a little quidence and a lot of patience, we can get this kid cleared for the next season. Contact me and I will help, just like I did last AS season. We should be able to get the kid to play, but most of all, the parents need to take the responsiblity. In this case, it is the group parent. I am willing to do what I can, even the parents responsibility. I will work with the group home in order to get him to play. MEL
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 14, 2006 6:57:06 GMT -8
Javon H. was legal right at the wire. Joshua U. was never allowed to play because of the copy of his birth certificate. I have heard he is being permanetly placed in a home in Stockton, but I would like to see this changed so it does not happen again to any other young man. I think little league will have to budge on this one because the state law sounds pretty stern (nobody gets the original until he is adopted or turns 18). I know the amount of work you put in and it is very appreciated.
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Post by Chris on Nov 14, 2006 7:02:48 GMT -8
I edited out the last name on the above post. Can't give out kids names from such programs publicly.
We have had kids from our program sign up for LL. We gave Mel access to the various docs she needed and everything worked out fine. Access to the correct docs are the biggest problem. Some programs have the docs and other don't for various reasons. The program just has to want to enroll the kids as badly as we do.
Perhaps we can notify these programs early like AE is doing with early registration. That may give them enough time to get the required Docs.
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 14, 2006 7:58:17 GMT -8
Oops, nice save Chris, trying to educate Craig is difficult. I'm a quick study, won't happen again.
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