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Post by tmurphy on Nov 3, 2006 17:31:19 GMT -8
I thought I would give you guys a little info about USSSA. BYB 11u is no longer allowed to play 11u in nothern California even though we are registered 11u major and still have a couple of kids that are still 10 and have not turned 11 yet. Jay Zetz the so called state director informed me on Tuesday he can no longer allow us to play in our own age groups because it is not good for their business. He stated to many teams complain and back out of tournaments when we play and then if you look in the other age groups you have Major and AAA playing in the same age group. Also we are no longer allowed to play 11u at Rainbow Fields because we are the only national ranked team in Northern California and this is in Super Series. We are in the process of filing a law suit against USSSA for discrimination. We have won a couple of 12u tournaments and we have also had our butts handed to us in 12u tournaments but why punish the kids for their hard work and dedication to be the best at their age group and expect them to be as successful but anyway just a little something for you guys to think about do not practice to much and do not let your kids try and be the best they can be because it the long run it will hurt them more than help them. What do you guys think just venting a little bit but any way I would like to hear from other people as far as what your stand is if you were in this same position .
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Post by Mark on Nov 3, 2006 18:19:11 GMT -8
i dont think they should be able to do that, although i can see where they are coming from as in if you guys show up many teams will pull out because they know they cant beat you guys.
can there be a comprimise? i remember a couple yeard back there was the 13U CV Thunder team based out of Atwater that won 80 something straight games and was told by rainbow fields that they could only participate if they dumped half of their roster and only kept half.
but i also understand your frustration because its harder to find Elite tournaments at the lower age levels if your team is too good, unless your parents are prepared to pony up thousands of dollars up front and travel out of state to top tournaments it will be tough
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Post by Chris on Nov 3, 2006 20:44:04 GMT -8
I heard they banned the BYB because their manager was a weenie. Seriously, that's bullshit that they would take that position. Have you gone over Zets head? It seems to me he's creating rules that don't exist. How does the National organization respond? Go gettem Tony!
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 3, 2006 21:08:36 GMT -8
Holy smokes, I've heard it all now. Tony referred to as a weenie and Craig pawning his Tom Emansky crap in the same evening. Tony, Charlotte suggests that you not wear the visor and they won't know its you, so the Boyz can still play locally. Secondly Craig, if softball and career don't go together what have you been been doing for the last 25 years?
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Post by crash23 on Nov 3, 2006 22:03:28 GMT -8
First, Tom Emansky doesn't know shit! I wouldn't waste my hard eraned tax payers money on his "system." Second, Daymn! 25 years? It sounds bad enough but seeing it in writing is even worse.... That looks like a lonnnggg time when ya see it in writing!!!! Seems like only yeasterday you were spitting epithaths my way as you popped up yet another one of my lob balls to our shallow right... It's good thing you take Trevor to hitting lessons! Good question, tho, Mike. For the first 18 years I just played ball and went home - what a smuck, huh??? Then I finally discovered the only real reason to lace 'em up - Hot Wings & Beer aferwards. Yep, I'is a slo lurner!
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 3, 2006 22:26:39 GMT -8
Craig, I'm so sorry, I guess that's Walt Herniak's crap you've been pledgerizing on your site. My next concern is something I take very serious. That's my lifelong battle with torettes syndrome, if you thought those profanities or slurs were towards you I am deeply sorry. If you can remember I often insulted and swore at you as I rounded the bases after launching one of your famous meatballs. I think you should thank me though, because in another year when your playing 50 and over I heard they swear alot, my dad says they are old and cranky up there. Good luck Zimmer......
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Post by crash23 on Nov 4, 2006 8:34:40 GMT -8
It's Charlie Lau moron. And sorry I never you that in addition to dyslexia you had Turrero's Syndrome. Yeah, I do have to give credit where credit is due... You did hit a few to deep left and cuss me out as you rounded first and headed back to the dug out after Pat Davis snap catched your F-10! Pledgerizing? Maybe I should keep my kids at Denair. I can't type but at least I can spell! And if you read closely I plagiarize Ted Williams, Dusty Baker, Lau & Lau Jr and even Cal Ripken, Jr. As always I'm an equal opportunity
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Post by crash23 on Nov 4, 2006 8:38:30 GMT -8
Hey Tony, Yeah I think that's a raw deal. But we all know all of the organizations are all about money and that anything that interferes with their making money won't fly. You're costing someone money and that's the bottom line. If they were smart (insert your own pun here) they would tell teams their will be two winners, National, Elite or whatever class your in and one in American... You might want to tell them they can even keep their first place trophy and give it to whoever is the "champion" of the "lower" division (the second place team).
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 4, 2006 8:55:03 GMT -8
Yes Craig I'm a mess, you do make good points and knowledge of the game is unsurpassed. I've heard on a number of occassions that the lesser talented player makes a great coach and talented player is too impatient and can't understand that hacks like yourself have to work harder to be average. The next time you bring up Pat Davis I'll have to tell the Ranger family about that little incident in Tahoe. LOL
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Post by crash23 on Nov 4, 2006 10:15:01 GMT -8
If that's the case you should be heralded wide and far as the greaest coach that ever graced a diamond. I don't believe I've ever watched anyone boot a grounder or hit in a silo better than yourself!
Speaking of Tahoe... we had no ideaa OJ would go on to do what he did. I guess the two ladies on his arm that were not his wife whould ahve been a clue. At least I never "bunked" with Soares...
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 4, 2006 10:24:19 GMT -8
Ouch, you got me again lol. My trick to coaching is to have an assistant who doesn't know crap so when things go south I tell the parents that he means well. When we go 12-0 I'm a fricken genious hehehehe. I've got it all covered, you know I should be charging you for all this advice because the boys said you were taking notes.
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 4, 2006 10:31:01 GMT -8
I never bunked with Soares, it was a 3 bedroom condo in which I had my own room. Now I've heard the Pat Davis stories how you guys had the over and under rule (covers) and what goes on the road stays on the road motto.
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Post by crash23 on Nov 4, 2006 10:38:02 GMT -8
That's why I stayed at South Lake Tahoe and they bunked at North Shore... I always wonder why Kelly and Pat and the "boys" wanted to share a condo. The things they did with Marshmallow sauce should never be repeated! The Denair boys rented (separate) hotel rooms.
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 4, 2006 15:58:15 GMT -8
So thats what W.P. meant when he said, "Smores with Soares", and the rest of the team shrieked with anticipation. Our Turlock Recycling team was a little more athletic and well......not gay. I guess you should have picked up on their tendencies with them when they made you dress like Richard Simmons to play softball. I'm sorry, I thought you knew. Matching perms and leg warmers is a bit much. Just a thought. I guess I should make a disclaimer that I'm just kidding with Craig for those who are offended. Now back to baseball.
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Post by crash23 on Nov 5, 2006 21:30:14 GMT -8
Just exactly which one of your "guys" was athletic? Oh yeah, I forgot - guys like you consider poker a sport! And hold on... Our team eas the Richard Simmons of softball? I seem to recall it was your third baseman that was the one wearing the tights! C'mon, deny that!
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