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Post by Chris on Mar 12, 2009 5:44:19 GMT -8
Is it possible to save freshman sports next year and how do we do it? Even if we do who will they play?
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Post by trevor9 on Mar 12, 2009 7:30:43 GMT -8
Holy Sh!t, I work a 16 hour shift and I miss everything. Pitman beats St.Mary's and Turlock sweeps Central Catholic. Then we find out what Gracey really looks like and that Murphy is making an honest living doing what he loves. If they eliminate freshman sports, I have a connection in the Dominican Republic that runs the Washington Nationals Academy. He said they are looking for scouts and notary's.
I guess if there is no freshman baseball next year the kids can play travel ball or juniors.
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Post by gracey on Mar 12, 2009 7:35:37 GMT -8
I'm sure TM can get siomething going if there is no freshamna sports program next year. Just think of all the possibilities TM. This could be the golden ticket.
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Post by Mark on Mar 12, 2009 8:52:50 GMT -8
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Post by Chris on Mar 12, 2009 9:02:50 GMT -8
I don't give public school sports much of a chance of surviving more than another decade. I think sports will go completely private in the future unless things change dramatically. Its a shame because sports and all the extracurricular activities add so much richness to the school experience.
On the other hand, cutting one administrator from each school would probably completely all the sports that don't make any money.
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Post by gracey on Mar 12, 2009 9:03:08 GMT -8
This is serious stuff big guy-eliminating freshman sports can isolate the kids who can from those who are the stud right now. Kids develop at different stages- someone who is a stud in LL or travel ball can burn out in HS, and the kid who was a descent player can actually excel in HS, but he/she may never have the opportunity to find out. I challenage you my friend to name a kid who was a stud throughout LL/travel ball ( disclaimer- dad cannot be the coach) who played up in HS and was successfully throughout his HS years and continued on in college.
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Post by Rodney L. Voumard on Mar 12, 2009 9:23:27 GMT -8
Steve Soderstrom
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Post by Chris on Mar 12, 2009 9:23:42 GMT -8
Won't find much of an argument from me. I'm coming strictly from a financial resources perspective. I probably know as much about youth development as anyone on this board. That doesn't change the fact the emphasis on sports has changed over the years.
Even Obama is advocating for a different approach to education through his support of charter schools. I think those of us who love a particular sport are a bit myopic when it comes to the real reason schools exist.
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Post by trevor9 on Mar 12, 2009 9:24:17 GMT -8
Gracey- There has been several kids go from LL to college without daddy coaching, although recent trends have fewer kids doing it without daddyball.
Mark- Not a bad alternative.
Chris- In the long run if kids want to play college baseball, high school is still important. H.S. baseball might not be but grades are always important. Teams like Norcal are filled with studs on the field and in the classroom. I'm sure there are plenty of programs that couldn't give a rats @ss about a GPA. Cencal seems to be headed in the right direction. Ultimately the kid that understands that competition in the classroom will open more doors on the field.
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Post by gracey on Mar 12, 2009 10:11:35 GMT -8
I don't think Nor-Cal or Cen-Cal, or any other Cal has the right ingredient. If a kid is good in the classroom-he will probably be good in psorts or any other door he wants to open. It may be his personality characteristic. It is killing me to say this, but Craig had a good thing with the Rangers of a couple years back All kids were great in and out of the classsroom- and it shows now that they are in HS.Those kids are going to be fine no matter what they do in life.
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Post by trevor9 on Mar 12, 2009 10:48:22 GMT -8
Gracey, are you still alive? The Cumberland compliment shows you have a heart. Another mystery.......
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Post by gracey on Mar 12, 2009 11:12:27 GMT -8
Of course I have a heart- I saw the wizard recently and he gave me courage and a brain! As far Cumberland we'll have to keep it on track otherwise he may get a big head or something........
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Post by one4thedawgs on Mar 12, 2009 11:29:09 GMT -8
I will probably age myself but I can go back to the days (20 years)and name 10 kids from THS that were studs in HS and went on to play in college/very few minor league.......(and daddy wasnt coach)-----baseball has changed and many kids cant compete unless they play year round/travel ball. There are those few super athletes with just natural born talent but very few and far between. I agree with Chris and HS sports will eventually be eliminated and for those kids who cant afford to play on travel teams they will miss out/baseball will miss out.
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Post by trevor9 on Mar 12, 2009 11:34:37 GMT -8
Rob Mendonca, Mark Lewis, Dominic Dutra, Soderstrom, Reichert and lets not forget about Brady Sebok. Turlock has produced plenty of talent without their dad's cramming it down their throats.
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Post by one4thedawgs on Mar 12, 2009 11:35:56 GMT -8
For the super serious ball player living in a town like Clovis/Buchanan gives them the upper hand because I think with their league they play year round with the same kids and they have a SUPER program..$$$$$$- that is the perfect example of what kids are up against these days.....I noticed on the fresno state baseball team between last year and this year a number of players from that area. It might be pure geography but the fact is those kids/program has HUGE advantages
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