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Post by crash23 on Nov 13, 2006 15:09:54 GMT -8
Craig... seems to have the kids health high on his list of priorities. Holy Cow! A compliment from Mike. I bettter play the Lotto! We keep close track of pitch counts (not innings, those are meaningless). It's rare a kid throws more than 85 pitches for us. There's been a few times (last year) where I told my coaching staff that if so and so stalled in the championship game we'd have to throw in the towel b/c our pitchers had already reached their pitch count limit for the weekend (ones we establish, not Super Series, et al). I'd rather finish second or third that take chances on hurting a kid. Of course we haven't had to worry about that this year...
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 13, 2006 15:10:22 GMT -8
Jesus Chris, is there an echo in here? Ahh, it's just Crash repeating himself over and over. For crying out loud Craig, your like John Madden. Point out the glaringly obvious why don't you. Where's the 8 legged turkey and telestrater?
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Post by knezme on Nov 13, 2006 15:15:24 GMT -8
Ah.......let's cut to the chase..........When it comes to winning a ball game pitch your best pitcher every inning with his best stuff. Curves , nuckles, fastball, just win the game. The kid will move on when his arm falls off and you can replace him with another stud.
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Post by Mark on Nov 13, 2006 15:16:46 GMT -8
The only kid I would have liked to see Turlock get was Nathan Gonzalez, but I guess Pitman got lucky there. if nathan had arrived a couple months later i believe he would have been at THS. Pitman will have 3 outstanding juniors Nathan Gonzalez (pitching), Austin Keaton (everything), and Ian Fregosi (bat)
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 13, 2006 15:17:36 GMT -8
Wow! you really did learn alot from Art. Damn Kenny, you might not get to many coaching gigs with that strategy.
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 13, 2006 15:22:37 GMT -8
Even with those kids, I still give the edge to Turlock. Pitman has alot of talent but I hear more and more people choosing Turlock as the school they will be sending thier kids to in the next few years. If that actually happens they will be tough to beat for a while.
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Post by knezme on Nov 13, 2006 15:24:00 GMT -8
But I might come in second place alot..........LOL
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Post by trevor9 on Nov 13, 2006 15:25:52 GMT -8
Start listening to country music, cause your gonna want to set the mood to kiss your sister.
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Post by knezme on Nov 13, 2006 15:27:25 GMT -8
Hey......but she's hot............hehehee
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Post by Mark on Nov 13, 2006 16:01:40 GMT -8
Even with those kids, I still give the edge to Turlock. Pitman has alot of talent but I hear more and more people choosing Turlock as the school they will be sending thier kids to in the next few years. If that actually happens they will be tough to beat for a while. true and i honestly believe the THS coaching staff is far and above the better of the 2 staffs, but right now 2007 and 2008 Pitman is stacked with the playmakers-impact players and THS IMO has few. i agree in that things should start changing in THSs favor by 2009 hopefully sooner as my brother is a 2008 grad at THS
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Post by Chris on Nov 13, 2006 16:15:46 GMT -8
I don't mean to disparage any of the HS coaches but you guys give them way too much credit. From what I've heard from your pretty sharp baseball guys yourselves. A guy that can teach skills to one age group or level doesn't necessarily mean they can teach at another. Two recent examples come to mind in my travel ball and LL experiences.
I've also seen several skilled coaches who can't manage worth a shit.
Back to the topic. I'm begining to think that a 9 month season is too much. I think a shorter more intense season is less damaging than playing too long a season. Many of our younger kids start in February and play through late November. Hell the pros don't play that long of a season. I'd like to see a short more intense season with three full months off.
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Post by crash23 on Nov 13, 2006 16:37:27 GMT -8
I think if you create the right atmosphere and kids enjoy the tourneys, as well as the practices, Feb - Nov is fine. Throw in a couple of two week breaks and all is gravy. But the kid has to love the game. I think all of December and January off is fine - but there's no right or wrong asnwer. Was that an echo I heard? Guess thta means my ears will be ringing again soon...
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Post by Chris on Nov 13, 2006 16:59:52 GMT -8
Craig ~
I'm not talking about physical recuperation. I'm talking about the drag on everyone. Travel ball teams need 11 or 12 kids to be deep enough to play a large number of tournaments. If you are recruiting locally not all those kids are going to be committed to a long season at the same level.
Practice and even tourneys can become a "chore" if the kids other interests aren't considered. This especially true for kids that play travel ball year-after-year. They gotta find time for alternative interests.
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Post by crash23 on Nov 13, 2006 17:22:38 GMT -8
Yep, good points.
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Post by Mark on Nov 13, 2006 18:51:49 GMT -8
I don't mean to disparage any of the HS coaches but you guys give them way too much credit. i honestly think coach Mendonca and the THS Varsity coaching staff is one of the best around. and that is something that many people associated with other programs have also echoed i agree, the past couple of year we have been going 1 week on and then one off. and that was mostly designed to protect the arms from being in game situation week in and week out. but i believe that next season i might try a more intense schedule followed by a decent break and then regroup again. but for that you will need more "ACE" type pitchers, because kids cant go 80-100 pitches week in and week out. and i know alote of teams say "we have 11 pitchers" but honestly out of those 11 how many can you with all confidence give the ball to in a championship game? 4 or 5??? maybe 6? you will need alote of pitching to go week in and week out so as to cycle some of your pitchers to where they dont pitch at all n some tournaments
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