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Post by Chris on Apr 5, 2007 14:39:26 GMT -8
LOL - Craig saw one of his former student's kid play against him yesterday and has become sentimental.
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Post by Greenie on Apr 5, 2007 14:49:47 GMT -8
I'm trying to get my mother in-law to come watch us play the Cubs on Saturday. Crash and her went to High School together. He sure is an old fart!
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Post by scrapper on Apr 5, 2007 14:54:34 GMT -8
I know a kid like that. For the most part he is however, sometimes he is a real pain the arse.
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Post by DiamondbacksMom on Apr 5, 2007 17:27:51 GMT -8
It just hit too hard to home and as a parent, I have to only hope that my son only takes things out on himself. It's a relief to know that other coaches recognize the difference between an intense player and one that just has a bad attitude toward everyone & everything! Thanks for the positive comments Chris
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Post by crash23 on Apr 5, 2007 22:27:12 GMT -8
I'm trying to get my mother in-law to come watch us play the Cubs on Saturday. Crash and her went to High School together. He sure is an old fart! Watch your mouth Sonny, or I'll have to tell Jamie to spank you! lol
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Post by knezme on Apr 6, 2007 5:03:13 GMT -8
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Post by Greenie on Apr 6, 2007 7:02:17 GMT -8
Sorry Gramps. I do enjoy the spankings tho
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Post by Greenie on Apr 6, 2007 12:41:59 GMT -8
Kathy ~ No one brought up anyone's child or family in this thread. The context had nothing to do with individual kids. This thread started off as a general discussion of the topic of bad attitudes but I still don't believe anyone discussed individual kids. Another deleted post?
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Post by Mark on Apr 6, 2007 14:53:26 GMT -8
I only printed my opinion because I wanted to shed different light on the situation because it's not always as easy as giving money back & telling them to f*** off! @ giantsmom: thats just my opinion, and you should know my situation. i am no longer associated with LL i only manage a club team of 18 year olds. so that is why i used certain verbage. obviously no1 would use or would insinute the use of that kind of language with little leaguers mark p
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Post by Coop on Apr 8, 2007 7:32:43 GMT -8
One of my golden rules that I have always had to my players and their parents from day one, whether it be the season team or the All Star team, is YOU WILL RESPECT AUTHORITY (YOUR COACHING STAFF), YOUR TEAMMATES, OTHER TEAMS (PLAYERS - COACHES), LEAGUE OFFICIALS, OTHER PARENTS (WHO CAN BE CRUEL) AND MOST OF ALL YOURSELF AS A PLAYER WITH THAT SPONSOR ON YOUR BACK.
None of us have the right answer what to do but only what seems to work for us. When we step into those coaching shoes, it is like a marriage, you accept the good with the bad. I can not tell one coach or another what to do but only what works for me and my 12 players and their parents. It all starts with a team meeting with players and parents will our goals for the season and our (coaching staff) rules for the season on and off the field. I give the parents a chance to any questions, bottom line, our team rules are the last word. If you as a parent don't like what you hear today, now's the time to walk away with your player and play some where else.
I always try to be as positive as possible. Remember this (Chris you know this with your daily work) coaches alot of these players are looking for a mentor. Many of these players do not have a father figure in their lives, so for those two hours you have that player you are his father, his mentor (be careful with your actions).
As far discipline, what worked for me was the support from the parents. If a player is unruly or something happen at home (chores, school work), with their consent, bench the player in uniform the day of the game. Mark the lineup card, family discipline. Otherwise play him his minimum time. Trust me it works, I have used it with my coaching staff as well. Ask Bradin Hagens and his brother at Pittman. Please be as positive as possible.
Coop
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Post by mflema on Apr 14, 2007 1:29:49 GMT -8
To All Managers and Parents. I think the best thing for disclipline on a LL team is to remind the parents and players that there is already a Code of Conduct in place to take care of some of the things that are already happening. The language, some of the physical hitting between players of a team etc. Most of this stuff I am writing about is history right now because this is what has happened. The team where this was happening on, I suggested to the Mgr to go over the Code of Conduct again, make the players sign it agian and send it home to be signed by the parents. That is pretty zero tolerance for negatative language and physical hands on hitting or pushing stuff between kids. The other most important thing that you managers have going for you is not starting a player. My goodness, this must really be the thing that gets to some of these players. On two of the teams I spoke with, this is what was done with their fallen angels and that helped take care of the problem. Most of all, speak to the parents RIGHT AWAY. At the first sign of a problem mention it. Do not wait, do not think it will go away, make sure you talk to them and then document it. Have a coach there with you as back up and as a witness so it does not come down to a he said they said. Then follow up with an email or a letter repeating what was said with a cc to me or the president or the coach's coordinator. Who ever you feel most comfortable with. This protects you, show that you are trying to stop it as fast as possible, and the parents can not come back and say that they didn't know that they was not a problem. The next thing is to go through with what you told the parents and ask the BOD for permission to bench the player the next time he steps out of line. This is what is done in our league. If the manager has spoken with the parents, and the player and has given the player the warning that if he doesn't straighten up then he writes me asking me to present to the BOD a request for the 2-step disclipline letter. This normally is granted provided that the letter sent to me has enough reasons why the player should be benched or maybe even dropped off the team at some point. The fact that a manager has this permission to bench a player if neccessary, is mighty powerful, even though they have to let me know which game they are going to bench the player. We normally have 2 or 3 of these a season, and sometimes none of these are used. The parents and players just know that they are there if they are needed. What a behavior change. But the key is not to wait to speak to the parents, and let the parents that you are there as the manager to help them with there kid. Trust me they already know they have a problem on thier hands, and if you approach it as lets work together, not with anger, then you will be surprise that 98% of the parents will work with you. There are some that no matter what will never work with you. And of course they have the worst kids and it always seem like they have the most kids. But I guess it only seems that way when you are the player agent. LOL. Sorry this is so late in coming, I have been very busy with LL stuff, as well as very ill . But I have to say, I agree with all of you, but most of all, don't ever hesitate to call me or Tony to ask questions. That is what we do best, answer them. MEL
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