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Post by Greenie on Apr 5, 2007 8:12:45 GMT -8
Has anyone else notice the problem this year? I have seen kids swear, throw bats and helmets and nothing is being done about it. Does the MPR prevent the managers from sitting a kid out the entire game for disciplinary reasons? There was a post made last night saying some players intentionally threw a ball at his car and dented it. He said the coach was right there and did nothing about it. There was some other things said but then he deleted the message. This is the second time someone has posted something negative and then deleted it soon afterwords. I think we need to change it so only Chris can delete a post after it's made.
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Post by scrapper on Apr 5, 2007 8:37:12 GMT -8
Greenie:
You can talk to Melody, but there are provisions that would allow you to bench a player for the whole game and/or send them down to the Minors.
I have noticed a change in player's attitudes. They are a little more brass. I think in some instances the parents are to blame because there is not any accountiblilty, and some instances I think coaches need to come down on their players a little harder and in some instances we just need to tell the kids that it is just a game.
I think all of these things are needed and the crappy answer is that there is not a cure all situations. It is a kid by kid basis.
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Post by Chris on Apr 5, 2007 8:51:29 GMT -8
I agree guys that the kids are tougher and I don't know how to fill their emotional tanks. The board will allow progessive discipline for behavior problems. Benching or releasing players is certainly a possibility. Unfortunately, the coaches need to seek approval to discipline a player beyond simply the MPR. I'm not advocating allowing coaches to release a problem player on their own. However, I do think that a coach should have the authority to bench a player for a game or pull a player out of the game even if they haven't met the MPR. It's a struggle and I had a situation like that last night. Fortunately, I have a set of parents willing to work with me on the issue.
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Post by Chris on Apr 5, 2007 8:52:25 GMT -8
BTW - If it is possible to prevent someone from deleting a post I don't know how to do it. I'll try to work on it though.
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Post by Mark on Apr 5, 2007 9:36:08 GMT -8
haha, in travel its called pro rate them a refund and tell them to f**k off
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Post by Chris on Apr 5, 2007 10:05:20 GMT -8
ROTF - Yeah another great feature of travel ball.
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Post by DiamondbacksMom on Apr 5, 2007 11:50:52 GMT -8
Being the parent of a son who tends to let himself show his emotional side when it comes to baseball (not football for some reason) and the parent of Chris problem last night, I have tried everything but anger management (is Jack Nicholson available?). The grouding, spanking, stern talks, etc.. aren't always effective for him. As his parents, we continuously remind him to have a good attitude and have fun but it's built in him to be an intense competitive child and I certainly cannot fault him for that. I also would not fault a coach for pulling him out of the game either (which has happened). For other kids whose parents aren't willing to be involved or do anything, then it's unfortunately the coaches responsibility to find the appropriate discipline be it benching or releasing.
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Post by Chris on Apr 5, 2007 11:59:22 GMT -8
Gulp, I didn't mention your son. Although I do appreciate how supportive you and your husband have been. I love your son's intensity. Unfortunately, he even blames himself for his coach's mistake and I certainly blew it when I sent him from third.
Give me 12 kid's with your son's tenacity and we'll go 50-0. It may be an exciting ride getting there but we'll win. I told you privately how much I enjoy your son and nothing has changed. He's a great kid with some great parents and all will be well.
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Post by Chris on Apr 5, 2007 12:06:18 GMT -8
G- Mom, BTW - I wouldn't trade your son for anyone else in the league. Well maybe Nick V. but only Nick V. I love winning too
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Post by DiamondbacksMom on Apr 5, 2007 12:07:11 GMT -8
"It's a struggle and I had a situation like that last night".......which refers to bad attitudes and I thought for sure that was about him cuz I didn't see anyone else have a bad attitude. I know you're supportive and we're appreciative of that, it's just hard to read a forum that hits home....I know, lighten up or stop reading the forum (that's what Greenie would say) I only printed my opinion because I wanted to shed different light on the situation because it's not always as easy as giving money back & telling them to f*** off!
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Post by Chris on Apr 5, 2007 12:08:37 GMT -8
Agreed
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Post by scrapper on Apr 5, 2007 12:59:16 GMT -8
I would definitely want a kid who has intensity and is respectful than have a kid who has intensity and tells me to shut up or or do something that is detrimental to the team like talk smack or pick a fight with another player.
As long as the kid is respectful, you have a chance to talk to him when his emotional tank is full. You might be able to modify some behaviors.
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Post by Chris on Apr 5, 2007 13:08:15 GMT -8
I really like the kid who you ask to do something; gives you a big shit eating grin; nods his head yes and does his darndest to execute. Do you know anyone like that?
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Post by crash23 on Apr 5, 2007 14:25:08 GMT -8
I'm relatively certain our parents generation thought ours had terrible attitudes as well... their their parents thought the same of them. I seem to recall plenty of players that had bad attitudes when I was playing. We're just all geting older folks...
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Post by Greenie on Apr 5, 2007 14:29:20 GMT -8
G-mom.. I was talking about our game and some of the things that happened after the game. I didn't know that there was an incident with your son, I left to go home and go to bed but the phone never stopped ringing . What happens to him is totally different from what I was referring too. He gets pissed when he makes a mistake, he doesn't bad mouth other kids and try to start fights, cuss out his coach. Like Chris said I would take 50 kids with his tude anytime.
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