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Post by tmurphy on Apr 2, 2007 10:38:15 GMT -8
Ok I have received several phone calls asking this question can the pitcher take his signs from the dugout or from any one around the dugout in little league. I do not know because I have been out of little league a couple of years. I know in travel ball if you get caught taking signs from the dugout while you are on the rubber it is considered a balk. Everything has to come through the catcher. I know a coach and an umpire got into a heated discussion about it the other night so this is something that might needs to be explained to all coaches and umpires because it seems they are not on the same page.
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Post by Rodney L. Voumard on Apr 2, 2007 10:58:47 GMT -8
Good Question......Take a look on the HOME PAGE of the LL Web Site and there is a Link to a WEB FORUM on RULES....lots of TB and LL people , it would be a good place to post this question.
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Post by Chris on Apr 2, 2007 11:31:18 GMT -8
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Post by Mark on Apr 2, 2007 12:55:39 GMT -8
there is no such thing as a balk in LL Major is there?
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Post by Chris on Apr 2, 2007 13:22:11 GMT -8
No and there is no penalty associated with not following the rule to take the sign from the catcher.
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Coop
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Post by Coop on Apr 3, 2007 5:57:40 GMT -8
Rule 8.01 Second sentence reads as follows:
"Pitchers shall take sings FROM THE CATCHER while standing on the pitcher's plate".
I do know that the district is very picky about taking signs from the dugout or the fans (father or another coach). We all know that when the teams reach the World Series all of a sudden some of the rules seem to be stretched a little. Yes, Greenie and Tony are correct. There is no balks in the Little League Divisions. As I understand the rule, if it is called it becomes an illegal pitch and the batter is awarded a ball with or without runners. 13 years and older with runners on base it is a balk.
If this occurring coaches don't get into bad habits. Make sure that your catchers are flashing some type of signs to the pitcher while he/she is on the pitchers plate.
I hope that this helps.
Coop
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Post by knezme on Apr 3, 2007 7:37:58 GMT -8
Nice job coop...... ;D
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Post by Chris on Apr 3, 2007 9:13:39 GMT -8
I agree Coop - I know what the book says but I'm don't think it talks about a penatly. Any hoo, you called a great game last night. The two starters were lucky to have you behind the plate. It couldn't have been easy with the finesse going against the heat but you you made it look effortless. Congrats to you as well.
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Post by therightcall on Apr 3, 2007 9:32:10 GMT -8
Another sourse:“The Right Call” Casebook -- Comment: The pitcher may take signs from the manager or coach while on the rubber as long as he/she does not “unnecessarily delay” the game. This is also to prevent the pitcher from throwing a “Quick Pitch” by taking the sign while off the rubber and quickly walking through the pitching motion. If the manager/coach insists on calling pitches, the manager/coach should give the signs to the catcher who relays it to the pitcher while the pitcher is on the rubber.
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Post by Mark on Apr 3, 2007 13:00:26 GMT -8
taking calls from the dugout can be dangerous and could cross up catcher/pitcher
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