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Post by scrapper on Jun 29, 2006 15:27:52 GMT -8
I am looking to invest some big dollars in a bat for the lit scrappers and want opinions from all of those officials ;D of which is the better bat.
I realize the Banana is for real, but I saw the Amercian East kids with the Stealths.
Ok, which is the better bat. When I played, Eastons were the best but that was when we used leather helmets.
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Post by Mark on Jun 29, 2006 18:29:54 GMT -8
these are the bats that will best help your kids become better hitters, it is only a "practice" bat, but it will do more good than any other bat on the market, it will make the Banana and Stealth all the more better, more importantly it will make your kids "better hitters" and the hits will be made by the kids instead of the bats.Brett Bat: www.slambats.com/proddetail.asp?prod=bb%2DyouthMax Bat: www.slambats.com/proddetail.asp?prod=maxbat%2Dyouth&cat=28BWP Sugar Maple Bat: www.slambats.com/proddetail.asp?prod=bwp%2Dlittlepro&cat=28D-Bat: www.slambats.com/proddetail.asp?prod=dbat%2Dsl&cat=28www.slambats.com/proddetail.asp?prod=dbat%2Dys&cat=28A-Bat: www.slambats.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ABAT%2DWarrior&cat=28also here is an article on helpful these bats are to youth www.baseballtips.com/wood.htmlReal Players Hit With Wood Coach John Peter - Publisher of Baseball Tips.com Printer-Friendly Version Send this page to a friend -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let me say this up front… I do not like aluminum bats . . . but I’ll win with them. Practice with wood . . . and you’ll win with aluminum. It’s really very simple. An aluminum bat swing can be mechanically flawed but still get results. Inflated averages & power numbers abound with huge aluminum sweet spots & tricked-out metal alloys! But eventually bigger fields and better pitching eliminates many aluminum bat hitters well before High School . . . and it doesn’t have to be! Allow me to explain . . . Much of the physical side of the game is about: BATSPEED HANDSPEED FOOTSPEED Much of hitting is about: TIMING & BALANCE (Strength helps too) Wood Bats feel head-heavy, with much smaller sweet spots so any imperfections in a swing are magnified. (Are you getting the picture?) Training with wood forces the player to become mechanically precise & builds bat speed and strength. Additionally, wood trains hitters to really learn the strike zone and not swing at bad pitches (ever hit one off the end or the handle? . . . it hurts… and many times it breaks!) To successfully swing with wood… Trigger the hands earlier into the load position Keep your hands inside the ball (meaning hands closer to the body throughout the swing to make for a quick rotation to the ball) Stick with it until your muscle memory acclimates to this new weapon. Want more info? Check out a hands-on story about wood bat training Coach Jim Casolino called Off Season Training with Wood. Where To Buy Wood Bats Need ‘em cheap? - Try a Kmart or Walmart for around $25.00. Need ‘em great? - We carry Brett Bats (yes, that Brett family) Check ‘em out.
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Post by lboullion on Jun 29, 2006 20:17:14 GMT -8
Without a doubt, the Easton Stealth is the better bat. Walk into West Coast Sporting Goods, one of the biggest baseball stores in the state, and you will see 1 thousand Easton Stealths. I have never seen the other bat there. They probably sell 500 a month and it's cheaper then anywhere else by about $40. It's worth the gas to go to San Leandro.
Of coarse everyone knows it's the batter and the time put in, not the bat....but it sure helps to have a stealth..... My kids own a red stealth, black stealth, big barrel blue, big barrel green, small barrel green, big barrel yellow, and the next one to buy is the big barrel orange. (Ha, They still cant hit for nothin!!) At least we own less bats then Craig.... his boy could go up to bat with a garden hose and get a base hit so he doesnt even need a new bat !
My son broke his first wooden bat about a month ago hitting in practice and it is setting on top of his desser with his important stuff. He was thrilled.
I'd go with the Stealth CNT Orange and gray!
L Boullion
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Post by dennisserpa on Jun 30, 2006 12:36:56 GMT -8
I don't know a lot about baseball but Denny uses the Stealth. He has hit with both and he thinks the banana has more pop but I doubt it's significant. The thing both of my kids say about the stealth is that it almost never hurts their hands. (that could be good or bad) Very little vibration.
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Post by Mark on Jun 30, 2006 14:31:00 GMT -8
that is probly more bad than good. and here is why. if their hands hurt with other bats it means they arent using the sweet spot. when the sweet spot is used the hands will never hurt when contact is made with ANY bat.
if their hands are hurting with other bats it means they arent hitting with the sweet spot and really need to work on their mechanics. and that can only be fixed by using Wood Bats. bats like the stealth and the Catlyst only mask how good a hitter really is.
and that will become evident when the batters face top caliber pitching.
remember the point here is to make the "KID" a better hitter, not to make him "THINK" he is a better hitter because certain bats can do more thaings than others.
the whole game of baseball (hitting, pitching, fielding, and running) is all about mechanics. by the time they reach HS the kids with the best mechanics WILL be the best players on their teams and will play everyday
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Post by Chris on Jun 30, 2006 14:34:09 GMT -8
Good point Mark.
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Post by scrapper on Jun 30, 2006 14:42:38 GMT -8
Thanks Mark, that is good to know. I will start bringing out the wood bats for training purposes.
Do you suggest that if they have never swung a wood bat that they start hitting wiffles or does it matter.
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Post by crash23 on Jun 30, 2006 15:33:45 GMT -8
My youngest son, Brett, cracked his bannana aka Catalyst in less than half a season. The Stealths hold up longer no doubt. As to which has more pop I give the advantage to the bananna. Ryan tried the Stealth when they first came out but prefers his Demarini Xplosion. As for wood bats the Brett Brothers bat holds up like you can't believe. We first saw them at the San Diego School of Baseball two year ago. At first the price spooked me (about $90, depending on the wood you choose) but Steve Finley was our hitting instructor and he used one in the cages for at least 100 swings - with rubber pitching machine balls. You know how they can screw up a bat... but this thing was like a Timex. I've used ours for countless swings and Ryan and Brett both have to. It's still in one piece. For a practice bat they are worth every penny. They are available on-line... Like Mark, I'm a believer in using the woodies for practice. As he said, "it's about mechanics."
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Post by crash23 on Jun 30, 2006 15:36:24 GMT -8
Hey Lance, you've got me beat now. We're down to the Xplosion, Catalyst, one big barral (a vintage C402 Omaha), and three wood bats! BTW, thanks for the kind words.
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Post by scrapper on Jun 30, 2006 15:45:33 GMT -8
Thanks Craig, I really appreciate it. I am going to have mind start practicing with the wood.
I am going to start with the wiffles and move to real baseball after about 100 - 150 swings.
I want them to get used to hitting the sweet spot.
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Post by Mark on Jun 30, 2006 16:04:20 GMT -8
you can get Brett Bats at this website. www.baseballtips.comthey are cheap ($60) and well worth the money, they all come with ReInforced Handles to help agaisnt breakage
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Post by Greenie on Jun 30, 2006 18:43:01 GMT -8
Can you use the Brett bat in wood only tournaments? Thanks guys for the great info and GL in All Stars..
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Post by lboullion on Jun 30, 2006 21:24:57 GMT -8
Gotta love the sound of the wood bat too! It's fun to watch a young player hit with one. I guess we should all break out the wood bats for practices......
L Boullion
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Post by Mark on Jun 30, 2006 22:19:03 GMT -8
Can you use the Brett bat in wood only tournaments? Thanks guys for the great info and GL in All Stars.. Yes, they are allowed at all levels of play that are below High Class Single A in the pros. we used them in 3 wood bat tournaments last year plus practices. i bought the Brett Bros. Stealth (Ash Bat), Brett Bros. Master Maple (Sugar Maple), Brett Bros. Maple Bamboo (Maple and Bamboo), and the Brett Bros. Bamboo (Bamboo) and the only one we broke was the Stealth (White Ash) bat
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Post by Byrd on Jun 30, 2006 23:03:56 GMT -8
Mark how did you like the bamboo bat?? I have never hit with one but wondered how the ball reacts off of them. Back in the day wood was all we had. My son has a hard time understanding that in todays world of technology and composites. Of course even the wood was limited to Louisville Sluggers for the most part. You definently know when you hit it good with wood. Thanx for all the links as well.
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